handle ToDo and other stuff

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# Posted on: 01-Jun-2005 18:46:46   

Greetings,

I wanted to know how do you all manage your ToDo's and bug tracking in a small team. I will appreciate any advice how to handle this and what tools if any would help in this

Devildog74
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# Posted on: 01-Jun-2005 22:34:21   

when team foundation server comes out, thats what I will move to, right now my team uses axosoft small team edition. its very buggy tho.

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# Posted on: 01-Jun-2005 22:55:32   

I use ToDoList (free tool, but not very suitable for a large team), and for bugtracking I use bugtracker.net, free simple web-based bugtracker system. It's very simple but then again, it is precisely how I want to work, so it fitted nicely.

I hearded great things about dragnet from Sourcegear and fogbugz from fog creek software

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# Posted on: 01-Jun-2005 23:14:33   

Otis wrote:

I use ToDoList (free tool, but not very suitable for a large team), and for bugtracking I use bugtracker.net, free simple web-based bugtracker system. It's very simple but then again, it is precisely how I want to work, so it fitted nicely.

I hearded great things about dragnet from Sourcegear and fogbugz from fog creek software

I use Gemini for bug/feature tracking (www.countersoft.com). It has its limitations, but it's free for up to 10 users. It's the same software they use for DotNetNuke.

The nice thing about Dragnet is that it integrates with Vault. If your team is REALLY small (ie one person), you can use both of those for free.

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# Posted on: 02-Jun-2005 07:55:01   

alexdresko wrote:

I use Gemini for bug/feature tracking (www.countersoft.com). It has its limitations, but it's free for up to 10 users. It's the same software they use for DotNetNuke.

The nice thing about Dragnet is that it integrates with Vault. If your team is REALLY small (ie one person), you can use both of those for free.

We also use Gemini. It has it's quirks, but you can't beat the price for a small internal team.

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# Posted on: 02-Jun-2005 08:17:00   

I just looked at Gemini, can someone elaborate on the quirks.

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# Posted on: 02-Jun-2005 09:55:26   

What I remember from using Gemini is that it didn't have any way to group components under a version, and that's really a problem sometimes.

For example, LLBLGen Pro is build up from various different subsystems, or components if you'd like. Together, these form 'LLBLGen Pro' and that package has a version, for example 1.0.2004.2.

It can be some subsystems grow faster than others. Internally, in the development team, you'd like to keep track of the versions of the subsystems, but ALSO in which version of the PACKAGE they're shipped in. Not just a 'component' is released, it's part of a package.

I missed that, if I remember correctly. Bugtracker.NET is so simple it has 'projects' and inside a project a 'category'. I use categories for versioned subsystems, which works fairly well. I first had my doubts, but it turned out ok. I looked at a free system because I had the plan to open the bugtracking system to the customers, though I couldn't find a free version which was OK and above all: secure. All commercial ones want license fees for users of the system, which makes it unusable to open it up to a lot of users.

Though after a while you get accustomed to what you're using, and you see that they simply work, even though ToDoList is very simple and Bugtracker.NET is too. Of course, you have to do the manual linking between bugtracker.NET and subversion (add the bugnumber to the comment in subversion when committing) but it gets part of normal life. In a larger team, I think I would opt for different tools, as you there have to pass on bugs to other people etc.

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# Posted on: 02-Jun-2005 15:09:48   

To claify, Gemini does allow setting up versions at the project level. This is how the "Road Map" and "Change Log" reports are built. The next version to come out will include versioning at the module level, as well as custom fields at the project level. Also, the web services API makes integrating Gemini with existing applications pretty easy.

As far as the kinks are concerned: I don't like how it forces you to fill out certain fields such as the description field for a named component. The searching and sorting capabilities aren't that great either. Also, I'm still not used to the way it uses a Status and Resolution field for each issue.

I'm used to maintaining my personal tasks in Outlook so that may be one reason why I don't particularly like everything about Gemini. The Group By box feature in the Outlook task window is just about all I need to sort my tasks in a way that makes perfect sense.