12 months without llbl

Posts   
 
    
worldspawn avatar
worldspawn
User
Posts: 321
Joined: 26-Aug-2006
# Posted on: 13-Apr-2012 02:02:54   

Hello,

12 months ago I changed jobs and had to leave llbl behind for nHibernate. At the time I'd been quite swept up in a lot of nHibernate hype and liked the look of it's clean POCOs.

12 months later I am fed up with it. I struggle to understand how so much work could go into an ORM and yet it is riddled with absurd limitations. Its linq provider is a sad hobbled thing that needs to be put down. It's strongly typed query syntax (QueryOver) lacks any intuitive design whatsoever and has some shockers (can't select an expression!, can't join onto a subquery!!!)

I miss you llbl cry

Walaa avatar
Walaa
Support Team
Posts: 14984
Joined: 21-Aug-2005
# Posted on: 13-Apr-2012 03:23:05   

That's a sad story disappointed

Otis avatar
Otis
LLBLGen Pro Team
Posts: 39753
Joined: 17-Aug-2003
# Posted on: 13-Apr-2012 10:16:36   

Sorry to hear that, Sam.... Yeah, NHibernate gets a lot of hype, but the thing with data-access technology is that it has to work always, everywhere, in all situations and shouldn't have any surprises. Though I think NHibernate isn't going forward as much as it did before, as key people left.

Your team mates, are they also fed up with NH or do they still love the random issues no-one knows how to fix? simple_smile

Frans Bouma | Lead developer LLBLGen Pro
worldspawn avatar
worldspawn
User
Posts: 321
Joined: 26-Aug-2006
# Posted on: 13-Apr-2012 14:02:25   

Hi Frans,

Your team mates, are they also fed up with NH or do they still love the random issues no-one knows how to fix?

Yeh we're all a bit sick of banging our heads against Google trying to drum up answers. So often the answer is just "Oh you can't do that, try using HQL".

Though I think NHibernate isn't going forward as much as it did before, as key people left.

So what ORM do those "people" use now? Sadly we're now in too deep to change.

Otis avatar
Otis
LLBLGen Pro Team
Posts: 39753
Joined: 17-Aug-2003
# Posted on: 14-Apr-2012 11:17:26   

Not sure, though I think some moved away from .net in general and use javascript all the way now or nosql databases. I'm sure those nosql movers will be back, at least after their clients told them they want their data stored in a more generic system so it's available after the application died off wink

Good luck man, and I'm sure you'll be back some day simple_smile

Frans Bouma | Lead developer LLBLGen Pro
NMackay
User
Posts: 138
Joined: 31-Oct-2011
# Posted on: 30-May-2012 11:03:02   

Technical support is really important to us, you don't really get that with nHibernate and you have to trawl through posts to try and find a solution. With EF you have to wait for a service pack or a hotfix (if your very lucky).