Hello,

Does LLBLGen Pro has or plans to have in the future a deployment (Assemblies) ready for .NET 4.0 Client Profile?

Thanks Ricardo Martins

Hi Ricardo,

rmartins wrote:

Does LLBLGen Pro has or plans to have in the future a deployment (Assemblies) ready for .NET 4.0 Client Profile?

Not at the moment. This is quoted form this thread:

Otis wrote:

our runtime requires the full .net version. This is because we haven't split up the ormsupportclasses dll yet so web/design classes are now currently in the same runtime, but they've to be in a separate assembly if clientprofile is required. This is a breaking change with high impact so we don't want to do this right away. As we didn't ship a native .net 4 build ormsupportclasses dll with 3.0, and client profile in .net 3.5 is kind of flaky, we've postponed this to a later v3.x release.

Thank you for your answer. I did read that post, but i was trying to get more of timeframe when you guys expect to release v3.x with Client Profile Framework. I am sure you have an internal development roadmap had by your answer, it understand that you have in fact plan to released it in the future. Would be possible to set expectations on a timeframe for this release? this is crucial for our development effort and architecture decisions.

Thanks Ricardo Martins

The next version, v3.5 will still support .NET 2. This means we won't split the assemblies with v3.5. With v4, the version after that, we'll drop .NET 2 but it's not defined yet when that version will be released, at least not in early 2012

Is this a major problem for you? The main reason we don't split up the assembly is because it will give problems for existing customers migrating code to the new version, but if NOT splitting up the assembly will also give problems for other customers, we've to look into ways to make both groups happy. If you could elaborate a bit what problems you'll run into with the current assembly, that would be great

Hi Frans,

Thank for the prompt response.

Our architecture consist in a .NET 4.0 WPF application that is being deployed using ClickOnce deployment (we have a Win and Web version).

We dont have problems per se, but main issues with our clients (which are very picky with deployment and installation).

When installing our application in a pc that doesnt have .NET Framework installed, if installs the full version (offcourse) and it requires most of the times a download and the size of the Full .NET Redistributable package is considerable larger than the Client Profile one.

Another issue is that most of our clients are in the banking/financial area (mostly investement banks), and they have strict security requirements (one of which is that they only allow Click Once Deployment Apps that dont utilize Full version of .NET, only Client Profile version).

As you can see this is being quite a show stopper for us, as we are faced with this requirements.

We love LLBLGen Pro and we would rather not switch but at this moment we cannot wait for 6+ months to have a full Client Profile solution in place.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks -Ricardo Martins

Good points. So in short, it means you can't continue due to 1 assembly, while the people who migrate to v3.5 will have a bit of a problem with some .config files to update.

I think your points are stronger than people who have a bit of migration pain. We're refactoring the ormsupportclasses at the moment anyway, so we'll try to split it up in v3.5. v3.5 is planned to go beta at the end of the year / early next year. What has to happen is essentially getting rid of the references to system.web and system.design. System.enterpriseservices is already on its way out in v3.5, so as soon as we can accomplish that it's OK.

Is that enough for you or too late? We can't promise an exact release date nor will we do that, so if you need a strict commitment, I have to be honest: we can't give you that.

Thanks Otis.

How can I know when you release the 4.0 Client Profile (even in beta)?

v3.5 will have .NET 4 client profile support. It will go in beta likely in January 2012, and we'll announce the beta on this forum, twitter (@LLBLGenPro) and the download is also showing up in the RSS feed for downloads. The customer area has this RSS feed in a link on the left. This RSS feed will also show you the download updates of the current versions so it's a good idea to subscribe to that feed.

Hi Otis,

Any word on when the beta will be out? Are you guys still on track for this month?

Thanks in advance Ricardo Martins

rmartins wrote:

Hi Otis,

Any word on when the beta will be out? Are you guys still on track for this month?

Thanks in advance Ricardo Martins

Yep, still on track for later this month. Still some workitems to go, but they're minor so we have good hopes we can wrap it all up this month.

Great news Otis,

We are really looking forward to this release, for obvious reasons. Thank you so much.

Regards, Ricardo Martins

Do you guys have an ETA on this? Or a Beta release of some sort?

We have clients waiting and just wanted to be able to set expectations and if possible an acurate timeframe.

Thanks Ricardo Martins

Never mind, I saw the download for the v3.5 Beta release.

Hello,

sorry to post in this thread but I haven't found a way to send a message to a user.

rmartins : I'm very interested to share some thoughts with you, since we're about to develop an similar (WPF/ClickOnce) app with LLBLGen and a picky client concerning security

Should we open a new thread here, or could you contact me via email: hcd AT telenet.be

Thnx ! Sven.