I see that Oren Eini is selling a Llblgen profiler. Have you taken a look at it? What are your thoughts on it's benefits/problems?

yes I have. It works great It's still showing it is rooted in nhibernate land though, as it focuses on session usage, which llblgen pro doesn't have.

Also, if you enable tracing and use a trace listener (either the text one or write one yourself with a few lines of code), you can get good insight in what's going on as well. The profiler is just easier.

Seems then that it is priced way too high for the value that it offers. He hasn't responded to my question on whether it is included in the uber product. It's not listed as being included, but what then is the meaning of uber?

arschr wrote:

Seems then that it is priced way too high for the value that it offers. He hasn't responded to my question on whether it is included in the uber product. It's not listed as being included, but what then is the meaning of uber?

I think he doesn't get much sales from it. The mailinglist is pretty much dead. Our own framework has pretty deep tracing support, you can get insight in what's happening very easily and controllable. Oren's tool is nice for when you want to see where code originates, and if you want signals where things could be more efficient (it tells you to). But often these are off, as they're focused on session oriented o/r mappers, which llblgen doesn't use. It's similar to if you use the 'hot spots' features in a regular profiler or simply analyze what the profiler tells you.

There's a competitor btw, http://www.huagati.com/L2SProfiler/, which is much less expensive.